Summary: Again, WTF? What happened there?
I'm not sure about this one. Did we get a reset or not?
On the one hand, it was quite well done -- the framing scenes of Owen and the widowed bride on top of the car park -- yet again, the scriptwriters really do like their shots of characters staring moodily off tall buildings, don't they? -- worked well, and things moved along at quite a pace. Whether those things entirely made sense, even by Torchwood standards, is a moot point.
So what's Owen's status now? Alive, dead, undead, fragile, repaired, what exactly? If it was explained, I obviously didn't pick it up well enough to be sure. No doubt it will become clear(er) next week? If the alien pet rock turned him back into a normal human again, well ... that would be somewhat feeble as a reset button. If not, well ... the team just got even stranger. There was an awful lot of philosophy in this episode, but eh, fair enough given the outre stuff they were exploring here -- I suppose that made sense given its nature, with an interesting casting of Richard Briers as the old recluse, but he played his part well. And once again Burn Gorman was excellent.
Was it just me who thought that the end would have been less corny if the woman had, in fact, jumped? That's the problem, it's tricky to bring that sort of scene off without it seeming corny. They almost managed it, but maybe not entirely.
Yes, it was a bit reminiscent of Random Shoes, especially that scene with Owen running like mad.
There were some scenes that just seemed ... off, though, as though the scriptwriters were trying to make a point and having the characters act in strange ways to emphasise it. For example, Jack being a jerk again when chucking Owen out -- "it's regulations"? Huh? When did Jack ever give one of his doubtless numerous flying fucks about regulations? -- and worse, the rest of them just ignoring him at the team meeting while they prattled on. You'd have thought that if they were going to let him attend despite having his ID taken away (isn't there a regulation about that then, Jack?), they would at least have let him sit down and contribute. And then there was Owen yelling at Tosh -- all right, she was being somewhat insensitive coming round with the "oh, I brought food and booze" (as Moaning Myrtle could have told her, this sort of thing tends to piss off the undead who can't consume them), but the rejoinder was surprisingly vicious.
Why exactly was Gwen taking charge and giving orders at that meeting when Jack was there?
Very little Martha again. Although she did get to kiss Jack, which should please the fans.
Oh well, I'll go and see what other people made of it now. Otherwise, roll on next week where things may become clearer.
I'm not sure about this one. Did we get a reset or not?
On the one hand, it was quite well done -- the framing scenes of Owen and the widowed bride on top of the car park -- yet again, the scriptwriters really do like their shots of characters staring moodily off tall buildings, don't they? -- worked well, and things moved along at quite a pace. Whether those things entirely made sense, even by Torchwood standards, is a moot point.
So what's Owen's status now? Alive, dead, undead, fragile, repaired, what exactly? If it was explained, I obviously didn't pick it up well enough to be sure. No doubt it will become clear(er) next week? If the alien pet rock turned him back into a normal human again, well ... that would be somewhat feeble as a reset button. If not, well ... the team just got even stranger. There was an awful lot of philosophy in this episode, but eh, fair enough given the outre stuff they were exploring here -- I suppose that made sense given its nature, with an interesting casting of Richard Briers as the old recluse, but he played his part well. And once again Burn Gorman was excellent.
Was it just me who thought that the end would have been less corny if the woman had, in fact, jumped? That's the problem, it's tricky to bring that sort of scene off without it seeming corny. They almost managed it, but maybe not entirely.
Yes, it was a bit reminiscent of Random Shoes, especially that scene with Owen running like mad.
There were some scenes that just seemed ... off, though, as though the scriptwriters were trying to make a point and having the characters act in strange ways to emphasise it. For example, Jack being a jerk again when chucking Owen out -- "it's regulations"? Huh? When did Jack ever give one of his doubtless numerous flying fucks about regulations? -- and worse, the rest of them just ignoring him at the team meeting while they prattled on. You'd have thought that if they were going to let him attend despite having his ID taken away (isn't there a regulation about that then, Jack?), they would at least have let him sit down and contribute. And then there was Owen yelling at Tosh -- all right, she was being somewhat insensitive coming round with the "oh, I brought food and booze" (as Moaning Myrtle could have told her, this sort of thing tends to piss off the undead who can't consume them), but the rejoinder was surprisingly vicious.
Why exactly was Gwen taking charge and giving orders at that meeting when Jack was there?
Very little Martha again. Although she did get to kiss Jack, which should please the fans.
Oh well, I'll go and see what other people made of it now. Otherwise, roll on next week where things may become clearer.
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Date: 2008-02-29 11:34 pm (UTC)I don't think that alien thing did anything apart from giving Owen a bit of faith in the world again - I think he was right that it was just a message from the stars. Oh, the humanity!
I am now wondering where on earth this arc is going, but I'm most intrigued!
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Date: 2008-03-01 07:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-03-01 10:38 am (UTC)I have to admit Jack's been getting on my nerves lately. There doesn't seem to be any kind of character consistency to him at all. And what was the point of Martha even being there?
My general feeling about Torchwood this series is it's better than last time but it still needs work...
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Date: 2008-03-01 07:26 pm (UTC)I do wonder if it was Jack's life energy sustaining the glove, whether Owen will survive Jack getting killed the next time? Or since Owen doesn't repair himself, maybe if he sacrifices himself on something that does incinerate him? There are a number of ways they could play it, although I suppose it wouldn't be Torchwood if it wasn't a bit weird.
As for Jack, it may just be the effect of different scriptwriters writing him. Seems to happen a lot ...
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Date: 2008-03-03 02:00 pm (UTC)I think Owen has already survived a Jack death - didn't the Death thingummee kill him which was why he had a gaspy wake up in the car when they took Martha to hospital? And hang on - doesn't that mean the thing had thirteen deaths after all...?
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Date: 2008-03-03 02:14 pm (UTC)I'll have to check to see about Jack in DMW -- I may have missed that. I suppose it was while Owen was still 100% alien though?